IR Not detected

[Adrian]

Have had a vista MCE for awhile and all was set up ok and worked fine. But,
I recently (after not doing it for a long long time) installed all the
windows updates, and for some reason went into set up the TV signal again..
and therein lies the problem as it now refuses to set up properly because it
can't find the IR blaster hardware (for switching channels). Because our
cable box uses IRDA and not IR, I never set up the blaster cable and now
have no idea where it is.

Is there a way of getting past the IR not detected problem, given that I'll
never use the thing anyway. NB, I did find something about a HAVA driver,
but that broke the normal remote control driver, so have taken that back
off.

TIA
Adrian

[Curious]

I always thought that IrDA was no a port itself but is the standard to
which IR ports work see:

http://www.download.com/IrDA-Remote-Control/3000-2139_4-10554504.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_Data_Association

Post by Adrian
Have had a vista MCE for awhile and all was set up ok and worked fine.
But, I recently (after not doing it for a long long time) installed all
the windows updates, and for some reason went into set up the TV signal
again.. and therein lies the problem as it now refuses to set up properly
because it can't find the IR blaster hardware (for switching channels).
Because our cable box uses IRDA and not IR, I never set up the blaster
cable and now have no idea where it is.
Is there a way of getting past the IR not detected problem, given that
I'll never use the thing anyway. NB, I did find something about a HAVA
driver, but that broke the normal remote control driver, so have taken
that back off.
TIA
Adrian

[Adrian]

Don't know about that, but they do seem to cause problems.. the video
transmitters you used to be able to buy never worked with the cable boxes
here in the UK, they may now, I've not looked for a bit. When I first got
the MCE pc, I did try setting it up to use the blaster, and went through
every setting trying to get it to work, then went to the cable forum where
they said it would never work as the signals were different, at which point
I just got used to using the remote to switch channels.. now even that isn't
good enough for MS.

Post by Curious
I always thought that IrDA was no a port itself but is the standard to
http://www.download.com/IrDA-Remote-Control/3000-2139_4-10554504.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_Data_Association

Post by Adrian
Have had a vista MCE for awhile and all was set up ok and worked fine.
But, I recently (after not doing it for a long long time) installed all
the windows updates, and for some reason went into set up the TV signal
again.. and therein lies the problem as it now refuses to set up properly
because it can't find the IR blaster hardware (for switching channels).
Because our cable box uses IRDA and not IR, I never set up the blaster
cable and now have no idea where it is.
Is there a way of getting past the IR not detected problem, given that
I'll never use the thing anyway. NB, I did find something about a HAVA
driver, but that broke the normal remote control driver, so have taken
that back off.
TIA
Adrian

[Curious]

The problem is that when you previously tried to set it up you had the
blaster connected so it let you tell it you were getting input from a STB.
Now that you have tried to set up MC TV again without a blaster connected in
will not let you tell it that you have a STB connected.
You can try telling it that you have an antenna connected and then use the
RF output from the STB to your tuner since MC does not know the difference
between an RF signal received from an antenna compared to one received from
a STB.

Post by Adrian
Don't know about that, but they do seem to cause problems.. the video
transmitters you used to be able to buy never worked with the cable boxes
here in the UK, they may now, I've not looked for a bit. When I first
got the MCE pc, I did try setting it up to use the blaster, and went
through every setting trying to get it to work, then went to the cable
forum where they said it would never work as the signals were different,
at which point I just got used to using the remote to switch channels..
now even that isn't good enough for MS.

Post by Curious
I always thought that IrDA was no a port itself but is the standard to
http://www.download.com/IrDA-Remote-Control/3000-2139_4-10554504.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_Data_Association

Post by Adrian
Have had a vista MCE for awhile and all was set up ok and worked fine.
But, I recently (after not doing it for a long long time) installed all
the windows updates, and for some reason went into set up the TV signal
again.. and therein lies the problem as it now refuses to set up
properly because it can't find the IR blaster hardware (for switching
channels). Because our cable box uses IRDA and not IR, I never set up
the blaster cable and now have no idea where it is.
Is there a way of getting past the IR not detected problem, given that
I'll never use the thing anyway. NB, I did find something about a HAVA
driver, but that broke the normal remote control driver, so have taken
that back off.
TIA
Adrian

[Adrian]

I managed to borrow a blaster lead from a friend.. but something has still
changed.. if it's not plugged in when configured for it then when it tries
to record, it now gets upset saying it can't change channel..

I'll just have to find the damn cable.. bloody microsoft!

Post by Curious
The problem is that when you previously tried to set it up you had the
blaster connected so it let you tell it you were getting input from a STB.
Now that you have tried to set up MC TV again without a blaster connected
in will not let you tell it that you have a STB connected.
You can try telling it that you have an antenna connected and then use the
RF output from the STB to your tuner since MC does not know the difference
between an RF signal received from an antenna compared to one received
from a STB.

Post by Adrian
Don't know about that, but they do seem to cause problems.. the video
transmitters you used to be able to buy never worked with the cable boxes
here in the UK, they may now, I've not looked for a bit. When I first
got the MCE pc, I did try setting it up to use the blaster, and went
through every setting trying to get it to work, then went to the cable
forum where they said it would never work as the signals were different,
at which point I just got used to using the remote to switch channels..
now even that isn't good enough for MS.

Post by Curious
I always thought that IrDA was no a port itself but is the standard to
http://www.download.com/IrDA-Remote-Control/3000-2139_4-10554504.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_Data_Association

Post by Adrian
Have had a vista MCE for awhile and all was set up ok and worked fine.
But, I recently (after not doing it for a long long time) installed all
the windows updates, and for some reason went into set up the TV signal
again.. and therein lies the problem as it now refuses to set up
properly because it can't find the IR blaster hardware (for switching
channels). Because our cable box uses IRDA and not IR, I never set up
the blaster cable and now have no idea where it is.
Is there a way of getting past the IR not detected problem, given that
I'll never use the thing anyway. NB, I did find something about a
HAVA driver, but that broke the normal remote control driver, so have
taken that back off.
TIA
Adrian

[Curious]

If you want MC to change the channel on your STB you have to use a blaster.
If you connect the output from the STB to your RF or S-video then you have
to change the channel being received by the STB with the STB's remote and
you never change the channel used by MC.

Post by Adrian
I managed to borrow a blaster lead from a friend.. but something has
still changed.. if it's not plugged in when configured for it then when
it tries to record, it now gets upset saying it can't change channel..
I'll just have to find the damn cable.. bloody microsoft!

Post by Curious
The problem is that when you previously tried to set it up you had the
blaster connected so it let you tell it you were getting input from a STB.
Now that you have tried to set up MC TV again without a blaster connected
in will not let you tell it that you have a STB connected.
You can try telling it that you have an antenna connected and then use
the RF output from the STB to your tuner since MC does not know the
difference between an RF signal received from an antenna compared to one
received from a STB.

Post by Adrian
Don't know about that, but they do seem to cause problems.. the video
transmitters you used to be able to buy never worked with the cable
boxes here in the UK, they may now, I've not looked for a bit. When I
first got the MCE pc, I did try setting it up to use the blaster, and
went through every setting trying to get it to work, then went to the
cable forum where they said it would never work as the signals were
different, at which point I just got used to using the remote to switch
channels.. now even that isn't good enough for MS.

Post by Curious
I always thought that IrDA was no a port itself but is the standard to
http://www.download.com/IrDA-Remote-Control/3000-2139_4-10554504.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_Data_Association

Post by Adrian
Have had a vista MCE for awhile and all was set up ok and worked fine.
But, I recently (after not doing it for a long long time) installed
all the windows updates, and for some reason went into set up the TV
signal again.. and therein lies the problem as it now refuses to set
up properly because it can't find the IR blaster hardware (for
switching channels). Because our cable box uses IRDA and not IR, I
never set up the blaster cable and now have no idea where it is.
Is there a way of getting past the IR not detected problem, given that
I'll never use the thing anyway. NB, I did find something about a
HAVA driver, but that broke the normal remote control driver, so have
taken that back off.
TIA
Adrian

[Adrian]

Yes I understand the concepts, it's just bloody annoying that MS have
decided that you must use an IR blaster so that MC can change channel even
though it's never going to work anyway.

Post by Curious
If you want MC to change the channel on your STB you have to use a blaster.
If you connect the output from the STB to your RF or S-video then you
have to change the channel being received by the STB with the STB's remote
and you never change the channel used by MC.

Post by Adrian
I managed to borrow a blaster lead from a friend.. but something has
still changed.. if it's not plugged in when configured for it then when
it tries to record, it now gets upset saying it can't change channel..
I'll just have to find the damn cable.. bloody microsoft!

Post by Curious
The problem is that when you previously tried to set it up you had the
blaster connected so it let you tell it you were getting input from a STB.
Now that you have tried to set up MC TV again without a blaster
connected in will not let you tell it that you have a STB connected.
You can try telling it that you have an antenna connected and then use
the RF output from the STB to your tuner since MC does not know the
difference between an RF signal received from an antenna compared to one
received from a STB.

Post by Adrian
Don't know about that, but they do seem to cause problems.. the video
transmitters you used to be able to buy never worked with the cable
boxes here in the UK, they may now, I've not looked for a bit. When
I first got the MCE pc, I did try setting it up to use the blaster, and
went through every setting trying to get it to work, then went to the
cable forum where they said it would never work as the signals were
different, at which point I just got used to using the remote to switch
channels.. now even that isn't good enough for MS.

Post by Curious
I always thought that IrDA was no a port itself but is the standard to
http://www.download.com/IrDA-Remote-Control/3000-2139_4-10554504.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_Data_Association

Post by Adrian
Have had a vista MCE for awhile and all was set up ok and worked
fine. But, I recently (after not doing it for a long long time)
installed all the windows updates, and for some reason went into set
up the TV signal again.. and therein lies the problem as it now
refuses to set up properly because it can't find the IR blaster
hardware (for switching channels). Because our cable box uses IRDA
and not IR, I never set up the blaster cable and now have no idea
where it is.
Is there a way of getting past the IR not detected problem, given
that I'll never use the thing anyway. NB, I did find something
about a HAVA driver, but that broke the normal remote control driver,
so have taken that back off.
TIA
Adrian

[Curious]

I don't know why you think it would not work since your STB has an IR
receiver that meets the IrDA standards.
And as I said if it is not going to work you don't want to tell MC that you
are using an STB you want to tell it that you are using an antenna and then
use the Coax out from the STB and set the STB to output on channel 3 and
always input to MC over antenna channel 3.

Post by Adrian
Yes I understand the concepts, it's just bloody annoying that MS have
decided that you must use an IR blaster so that MC can change channel even
though it's never going to work anyway.

Post by Curious
If you want MC to change the channel on your STB you have to use a blaster.
If you connect the output from the STB to your RF or S-video then you
have to change the channel being received by the STB with the STB's
remote and you never change the channel used by MC.

Post by Adrian
I managed to borrow a blaster lead from a friend.. but something has
still changed.. if it's not plugged in when configured for it then when
it tries to record, it now gets upset saying it can't change channel..
I'll just have to find the damn cable.. bloody microsoft!

Post by Curious
The problem is that when you previously tried to set it up you had the
blaster connected so it let you tell it you were getting input from a STB.
Now that you have tried to set up MC TV again without a blaster
connected in will not let you tell it that you have a STB connected.
You can try telling it that you have an antenna connected and then use
the RF output from the STB to your tuner since MC does not know the
difference between an RF signal received from an antenna compared to
one received from a STB.

Post by Adrian
Don't know about that, but they do seem to cause problems.. the video
transmitters you used to be able to buy never worked with the cable
boxes here in the UK, they may now, I've not looked for a bit. When
I first got the MCE pc, I did try setting it up to use the blaster,
and went through every setting trying to get it to work, then went to
the cable forum where they said it would never work as the signals
were different, at which point I just got used to using the remote to
switch channels.. now even that isn't good enough for MS.

Post by Curious
I always thought that IrDA was no a port itself but is the standard
http://www.download.com/IrDA-Remote-Control/3000-2139_4-10554504.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_Data_Association

Post by Adrian
Have had a vista MCE for awhile and all was set up ok and worked
fine. But, I recently (after not doing it for a long long time)
installed all the windows updates, and for some reason went into set
up the TV signal again.. and therein lies the problem as it now
refuses to set up properly because it can't find the IR blaster
hardware (for switching channels). Because our cable box uses IRDA
and not IR, I never set up the blaster cable and now have no idea
where it is.
Is there a way of getting past the IR not detected problem, given
that I'll never use the thing anyway. NB, I did find something
about a HAVA driver, but that broke the normal remote control
driver, so have taken that back off.
TIA
Adrian